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Postby cwiekol » Thu Dec 17, 2009 1:39 pm

Hello,

have you resolved problems with polish diacritics characters (ęóąśłżźćń) since i was here last time almost half year ago?
I'm still using Windows Desktop Search missed to X1 which i like the most..
Should I install Raptor or it's no chance that ŚRÓDŁĄCZĘ would be this same for it as SRODLACZE?

still dreaming about working with X1..
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Re: diacritics characters

Postby lancea » Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:00 pm

I've just done some testing with beta 3 (build 3964) and don't think it is is possible to do what I think you are asking.

I started with the setting "Indexing > Ignore accents in characters" disabled. This is the default.

I created two Word documents containing your example word. One using diacritics and the other not. Searching for the word in X1 returned only one document. That is, if I searched for ŚRÓDŁĄCZĘ it only found the exact match. It didn't find the document containing SRODLACZE. And vice versa.

My own interest was in macrons. So I added some macronised words, e.g. Māori. Then I enabled the "Ignore accents in characters" setting and rebuilt the X1 indexes. My hope was that searching for "Maori" would return the document containing "Maori" AND the one containing "Māori". But it did not. Therefore X1 is matching Unicode correctly, which is good (some applications don't) but not allowing a more general search. Perhaps the database used by X1 doesn't allow this type of search? I work a lot with Microsoft SQL Server and know it is possible to match across collations with at least some databases.

Sorry if I've misunderstood what you were asking, but it's at least helped me :-)
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Re: diacritics characters

Postby gt13 » Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:17 pm

Thanks lancea for this report.
It's only been 4 years since I expect that X1 implements this possibility. We will still wait...
I need a desktop search engine that indexes removable drives, network drives, Thunderbird, image's metadata, Evernote, and works fine with accented letters.
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Re: diacritics characters

Postby Kenward » Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:51 am

Has anyone ever promised this feature?
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Re: diacritics characters

Postby mikebainbridge » Fri Jan 15, 2010 6:05 pm

Related so I will post here is some 'interesting' behavior in the 'from' box in email..

I have a colleague who is d@domain.name. If I type d@ into 'from' I get 581 hits from 'Neal Kaufman, M.D.[email address], Bates,David,M.D.[email address], Marco d'Angelantonio [email address] , D'Souza, Laurie (EDT) [email address], Mark D Ferrar (organisation) [email address] and so on....

none from who I might have expected...

I'm sure you have worked it out by now !

Wild cards are all fine and dandy but in a field where @ has meaning ?! discuss...
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Re: diacritics characters

Postby Kenward » Sat Jan 16, 2010 4:24 am

What do you get when you type in "d@domain.name"?

It may be that X1 treats @ in the same way that it treats punctuation. As a space.
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Re: diacritics characters

Postby Tod » Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:45 pm

X1 will interpret 'd@' as 'd=' and therefore treats it the same as if you entered 'd.' or 'd!' or ' "d" ' or anything else. The punctuation tells X1 that you are searching for exact word matches with just the d character and not phrases like "dog" or "donut". All the examples you show have "words" that are just the d character (once you strip out the apostrophes and periods).
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Re: diacritics characters

Postby gt13 » Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:14 am

Note that this topic was not devoted to these kind of discussion.
Please open a new thread to follow your discussion about searches with X1
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Re: diacritics characters

Postby cwiekol » Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:35 am

hello,

do we have this feature added in the newest version, i'm just asking?

Is there any chance to implement this feature? i wish it would..

regards
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