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X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:20 am
by cscott
Hello all,

We're extremely proud to announce that we have finally released Search 8.6.

This release represents a substantial update to X1 Search's capabilities, leveraging all the development of the past months as well as pushing the Search product forward with improvements and new features gathered along the way.

We appreciate your patience during the long wait for the new version of Search 8, and all of us at X1 are excited for what is coming in the future.

Thank you for your continued support.

Direct Download Links:
Bootstrapper: http://download.x1.com/downloads/search/X1SearchSetup.exe
64-bit MSI: http://download.x1.com/downloads/search/6003ch/X1Search.msi
32-bit MSI: http://download.x1.com/downloads/search/6003ch/X1Search32.msi

Search 8.5 Release Notes

New Features:
- Vastly improved X1 index stability
- Files scanner now indexes the content of files without names or extensions
- Added the ability to search and refine by select Microsoft Office and selected EXIF metadata fields
- Re-worked the "Search In Attachments" function to be more visible and user-friendly
- Added a new Archive Items saved search in the Files data source with similar functionality to the "Search In Attachments" function in the Outlook data source
- Changed the text extraction process of IMAP emails containing HTML markup for better parity in search results between data sources (requires re-index of IMAP index)
- User configured Saved Searches can be re-ordered via dragging and dropping within their respective Data Source
- User created Saved Searches are now preserved upon version upgrade
- Updated compatibility plugins to better preview supported file types
- Added the ability to more precisely search and refine by file extension via the new Extension field (requires re-index of Files index)
- Added support for .ZIPX and various other types of container files
- Added the ability to completely disable automatic update checks

Bug fixes:
- System time changing due to travel no longer necessitates a rescan of indexes
- Resolved several issues that lead to longer delta and initial scan times for the Files data source
- Fixed a bug that caused Outlook PSA buttons to be inoperable on un-cached Exchange mail items on some machines
- Email items opened via the "Open" PSA now always correctly transition to a "Read" state
- Fixed an issue that would cause custom hotkey bindings to be restored after launch of the client
- Addressed a bug that resulted in a X1 Search 8 displaying an incorrect error dialogue regarding missing .PST files
- Fixed a bug that resulted in Real Time Indexing being improperly applied to Network Shares
- CTRL + CTRL hotkey now properly respected
- Reworked the Outlook Contact previews to be more user-friendly
- Network path directories and subdirectories now display in alphabetical order
- Improved display on 4k resolution monitors
- Many other key bug fixes and improvements

Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:49 am
by pebacher
Yea. Nice to see a new release. Eager to check it out. With the volume of emails I receive I cannot function without X1!

Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:27 pm
by Kenward
Sadly, the viewer in the new version still does strange things with some files.

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Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:35 pm
by cscott
Kenward wrote:Sadly, the viewer in the new version still does strange things with some files.


Darn! I thought we had that one nipped in the bud. Would you mind sending me that PDF to my username at x1.com?

Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:03 am
by gmorgan
Mine just starts opening and then 'stops responding'.

Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:17 am
by Cgy-Jim
My install just crashes with no explanation. Says see the log. What log?

Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:02 am
by Kenward
cscott wrote:
Kenward wrote:Sadly, the viewer in the new version still does strange things with some files.


Darn! I thought we had that one nipped in the bud. Would you mind sending me that PDF to my username at x1.com?

I'll send along page 1.

It is an Inso/Oracle problem. QuickView plus creates an even worse mess.

Not much that you can do about it beyond scream at Oracle.

Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:36 am
by hektic
Hello,

Upon installing the new version I have lost all of my results.

There are 628,000 items indexed in my X1, but the morning after installing the latest 8.6 update I can no longer view any results.

The left hand navigation tree is visible, but when you click on it nothing becomes highlighted. The software is not frozen. I can click across the top navigation menu (All, email, email and attachments, etc). However, no matter what I click on, it states "no results" even though on the bottom left hand corner it says 628,872 items indexed.

I'm running windows 10 with latest updates. I have tried uninstalling and re-installing and it makes no difference. Do you have any suggestions as to what the issue could be?

Thank you.

Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:49 am
by bkahler
My installation attempt also failed twice - one after a complete reboot. Same problem as Cgi-joe above.
W10, 64-bit
Looking forward to a fix.

Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:43 am
by cscott
Cgy-Jim wrote:My install just crashes with no explanation. Says see the log. What log?

Cgy-jim,

Many users who have issues installing via the bootstrapper often have success when using the direct .MSI installers which are linked above.

That being said, if you'd like to help us troubleshoot this issue here's what the error message refers to:

SETUP/INSTALL LOGS:
X1SearchSetup.log
X1Setup.log
x1search_install##########.log (looks like x1search_install635833909506379069.log)
MSI@@@@@.LOG (where @= a string of numbers and letters)

Here is how to locate those:
1. Click the "Start" button
2. In the Run box, enter the following: %TEMP%
3. Press Enter
4. In the resulting directory, sort by the 'Name" column and view the most current 'x1setup.log', 'x1search_install##########.log' and 'MSI@@@@@.LOG' files

I'm happy to pass along feedback and logs to the development team, but for best results I'd try the going through the X1 Support system.

It makes it easier for us to track trending issues and resolve them if possible.

Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:45 pm
by SoCalScott
Add me to the list of those who did the update and now have a non-functioning X1.

This seems to happen every time there is an update to X1. Maybe I should just ignore future updates.

Very frustrating.

Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:42 pm
by SoCalScott
hektic wrote:Hello,

Upon installing the new version I have lost all of my results.

There are 628,000 items indexed in my X1, but the morning after installing the latest 8.6 update I can no longer view any results.

The left hand navigation tree is visible, but when you click on it nothing becomes highlighted. The software is not frozen. I can click across the top navigation menu (All, email, email and attachments, etc). However, no matter what I click on, it states "no results" even though on the bottom left hand corner it says 628,872 items indexed.

I'm running windows 10 with latest updates. I have tried uninstalling and re-installing and it makes no difference. Do you have any suggestions as to what the issue could be?

Thank you.


Exactly my situation as well.

Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:59 pm
by hoffi.confusion
SoCalScott wrote:This seems to happen every time there is an update to X1. Maybe I should just ignore future updates.

I had a big problem with a Udate in version 6. Since then I'm always waiting.

Are there success messages for 8.6?

Please let me know here, if the bugs are fixed, then I will also update.

Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 1:55 am
by tlittle
I had the same problem 'error installing check logs'
The logs stated less than 10% disk space was the (10% = 50gb!)
Deleted file 111 to get above 50gb and it installed

Maybe it needs to check for the minimum available space, not 10% of free space

HTH

Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 7:22 am
by kblount
Was able to get this version installed, but I want to go back in time an beat my two day previous self for even considering the upgrade. Stupid... stupid... stupid.

I don't get it. Why do search results now take 15-20 seconds to show up? Why, once they show up, do preview windows take 10-20 seconds to show up? I moved from a perfectly functioning installation to one that, if I use it, will actually slow down my work-flow by a considerable amount.

If I uninstall and move back to the previous version (how do I even do that?), what are the odds that this installation has corrupted the previous? You should include an option on the upgrade message: "Never show this again" for those of us too stupid to leave well enough alone.

edit: Why is the "open" option in email greyed out? Why can I only open email using ctrl-o? Also, why, after waiting 10-20 seconds for the preview to show up, does the preview many times not actually show up?

Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 9:41 am
by SoCalScott
I find it interesting that many people are reporting similar problems. And what do we hear from X1...crickets. Nothing. Nada. Zip.

I've already started exploring other options, and if this situation doesn't get fixed quickly, I will probably go to another program.

Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 11:30 am
by james.darnell
X1 now appears to be indexing a lot slower than normal, causing excessive CPU usage for me. During those times X1 is very slow to respond. Is another release coming out soon.....?

Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 1:55 pm
by kblount
james.darnell wrote:X1 now appears to be indexing a lot slower than normal, causing excessive CPU usage for me. During those times X1 is very slow to respond. Is another release coming out soon.....?


I believe this is my problem. When it is indexing, it slows the use of X1 down dramatically, and it apparently is reindexing my entire system after upgrading. This was confusing to me since it was still showing my results, albeit slowly.

Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 3:31 pm
by cscott
SoCalScott wrote:I find it interesting that many people are reporting similar problems. And what do we hear from X1...crickets. Nothing. Nada. Zip.

I've already started exploring other options, and if this situation doesn't get fixed quickly, I will probably go to another program.

Sorry to hear you're having a bad experience. We're here and listening, however these forums are generally not the best method of finding support.

Would you mind submitting a support ticket here: https://www.x1.com/support/x1_search_submit_case.html so we can take a crack at resolving this issue for you?

kblount wrote:Was able to get this version installed, but I want to go back in time an beat my two day previous self for even considering the upgrade. Stupid... stupid... stupid.

I don't get it. Why do search results now take 15-20 seconds to show up? Why, once they show up, do preview windows take 10-20 seconds to show up? I moved from a perfectly functioning installation to one that, if I use it, will actually slow down my work-flow by a considerable amount.

If I uninstall and move back to the previous version (how do I even do that?), what are the odds that this installation has corrupted the previous? You should include an option on the upgrade message: "Never show this again" for those of us too stupid to leave well enough alone.

edit: Why is the "open" option in email greyed out? Why can I only open email using ctrl-o? Also, why, after waiting 10-20 seconds for the preview to show up, does the preview many times not actually show up?

X1 Search is now able to index a whole lot more files on the drive than in previous versions (including many items that we previously didn't have visibility into), and I suspect that's part and parcel of some of the behavior that you're seeing.

The PSA buttons being greyed out are generally related to two things:
1. Stale Outlook registry keys causing issues (a la https://help.x1.com/hc/en-us/articles/115001757351-X1-Search-Outlook-PSA-Buttons-Nonfunctional)
2. A known bug in MAPI (the communications layer between Outlook and X1 Search) that causes emails that are un-cached on the file system (meaning stored on the Exchange Server and not physically present in the PST/OST on the machine). We've improved on that behavior, but we're working around a Microsoft bug, so it's by no means completely fixed.

I can't tell what the particular issue is without reviewing logs, so please submit a ticket here: https://www.x1.com/support/x1_search_submit_case.html

If we can't get you up and running on 8.6, we'll roll you back to the previous version, however the checkbox in the "Options" window to disable all future automatic update checks is specific to 8.6, so you'll be prompted to upgrade from time to time.

Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 3:36 pm
by SoCalScott
cscott wrote:
SoCalScott wrote:I find it interesting that many people are reporting similar problems. And what do we hear from X1...crickets. Nothing. Nada. Zip.

I've already started exploring other options, and if this situation doesn't get fixed quickly, I will probably go to another program.


Sorry to hear you're having a bad experience. We're here and listening, however these forums are generally not the best method of finding support.

Would you mind submitting a support ticket here: https://www.x1.com/support/x1_search_submit_case.html so we can take a crack at resolving this issue for you?


Already done...and have submitted diagnostics zip file as well. I'm now on Day 2 without my desktop search. I rely on X1 heavily, and almost missed a deadline because I had to manually open dozens of documents and do individual searches in each document.

I appreciate that you're listening, but based on what I'm reading in the forums, lots of people are having problems with the latest release, and the complaints sound very similar. It sure seems like X1 pushed out a bad update, and the best things you can do at this point are (a) fix it, and (b) keep your customers informed on what you're doing to fix it, and give us a timeline.

Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 3:39 pm
by SoCalScott
cscott wrote:If we can't get you up and running on 8.6, we'll roll you back to the previous version, however the checkbox in the "Options" window to disable all future automatic update checks is specific to 8.6, so you'll be prompted to upgrade from time to time.


Can you tell us how to do this so we can get up and running again while X1 figures out what's wrong with the update?

Thanks!

Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:23 am
by Kenward
SoCalScott wrote:
cscott wrote:If we can't get you up and running on 8.6, we'll roll you back to the previous version, however the checkbox in the "Options" window to disable all future automatic update checks is specific to 8.6, so you'll be prompted to upgrade from time to time.


Can you tell us how to do this so we can get up and running again while X1 figures out what's wrong with the update?

Thanks!

Do you have a Windows restore point that predates the X1 "upgrade"?

Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:31 am
by SoCalScott
At the suggestion of X1 tech support, I did a clean uninstall of X1 and reinstalled it. That solved the problem for me. Here are the instructions I was given, but you should confirm that this will work for you by contacting tech support. You will need your license ID and password to do the new installation. As always, be sure to set a restore point before doing anything that involves your computer's registry.

PREREQUISITE:

If you can launch the X1 interface go to Menu > License and Deactivate your current license activation.

- UNINSTALL

1. Access Control Panel > Programs & Features.

2. Uninstall X1 Search. When prompted, opt NOT to save your X1 settings.

3. Check the following locations for remaining X1 Search files, and delete them:

- C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Local\X1 Search - this is the default location of the X1 Search data directory.
- C:\Program Files\X1 Search - this is the install location of the X1 program files.
- C:\Program Files (x86)\X1 Search - this is the install location of the X1 program files on a 64-bit operating system, running a 32-bit version of Outlook.

NOTE: You may find an X1 Search directory under C:\ProgramData\. You do NOT need to delete this directory.

4. Click Start > Run > Regedit or click your Windows Logo Key + R to launch regedit.exe and delete the X1 Search registry keys found in any of the following locations:

- HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\X1 Search
- HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Wow6432Node\X1 Search
- HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\X1 Search
- HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Wow6432Node\X1 Search

- FRESH INSTALL

1. Perform a fresh install of X1 Search 8 by launching the X1Searchsetup.exe found here: http://download.x1.com/downloads/pro/X1SearchSetup.exe

Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:17 pm
by Cgy-Jim
Success! Thanks - much appreciated.

cscott wrote:
Cgy-Jim wrote:My install just crashes with no explanation. Says see the log. What log?

Cgy-jim,

Many users who have issues installing via the bootstrapper often have success when using the direct .MSI installers which are linked above.

That being said, if you'd like to help us troubleshoot this issue here's what the error message refers to:

SETUP/INSTALL LOGS:
X1SearchSetup.log
X1Setup.log
x1search_install##########.log (looks like x1search_install635833909506379069.log)
MSI@@@@@.LOG (where @= a string of numbers and letters)

Here is how to locate those:
1. Click the "Start" button
2. In the Run box, enter the following: %TEMP%
3. Press Enter
4. In the resulting directory, sort by the 'Name" column and view the most current 'x1setup.log', 'x1search_install##########.log' and 'MSI@@@@@.LOG' files

I'm happy to pass along feedback and logs to the development team, but for best results I'd try the going through the X1 Support system.

It makes it easier for us to track trending issues and resolve them if possible.

Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:19 am
by poy
Backing up C:\Users\poy\AppData\Local\X1 Search\ folder regularly saved me lots of trouble in the last couple of months.

I shutdown X1 (settings to close its indexer on exit) and then manually use Acronis to backup the folder incrementally.
Works like a charm and gives me peace of mind as X1 index corruption occurs from time to time.

Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:19 am
by tjh
I'll have to give this new version a whirl!

Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:12 am
by cscott
poy wrote:Backing up C:\Users\poy\AppData\Local\X1 Search\ folder regularly saved me lots of trouble in the last couple of months.

I shutdown X1 (settings to close its indexer on exit) and then manually use Acronis to backup the folder incrementally.
Works like a charm and gives me peace of mind as X1 index corruption occurs from time to time.

Just make sure that those indexes aren't locked by Acronis when you're attempting to index data!

You should see a marked decrease in the incidence of index corruption after this version, Poy. We've made what we think are substantial improvements in that area.

I know you're quite the power-user, so I'm interested to see your results.

Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:39 am
by poy
cscott wrote:
poy wrote:...I shutdown X1 (settings to close its indexer on exit)...

Just make sure that those indexes aren't locked by Acronis when you're attempting to index data!


Ab So Lutely! That's why I wrote settings to close its indexer on exit.

cscott wrote:I know you're quite the power-user, so I'm interested to see your results.


I remembered the good ole saying "Never touch a running X1" and resisted to press the 8.6 button for now...

I'll check it out as soon as there are a couple of positive reviews from raving and brave fans.

Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 3:02 am
by jaybea
I have upgraded via the MSI download, as I was having the same problem as others have mentioned of the "error installing check logs" message when trying to install from the new version message.

I tested the install on my laptop first, to see what happened. The install went painlessly. I was expecting the index to be wiped, but it survived the upgrade and everything seems to be running as it should. I have upgraded on my PC as well (from the MSI) and have no problems with it.

The first couple of previews took a while to appear, but they are appearing quickly now. I have 320k items indexed.

Julian

Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:13 am
by derkan
trying to upgrade from X1 Search 8.5.2 6001si (64-bit) to 8.6 using the upgrade prompt. After I accept the License Agreement and click Next, I get an error. "Unable to complete setup due to an unexpected error. Please see logs for details". Here is the log from C:\Users\...\AppData\Local\X1 Search\logs

27 Mar 2018 09:10:48,243 [22] INFO UpdateManager - Found latest version: 6003ch
27 Mar 2018 09:10:48,244 [22] INFO UpdateManager - Newer version found. Current: 6001si Online: 6003ch
27 Mar 2018 09:10:48,293 [22] INFO UpdateManager - Checking http://download.x1.com/downloads/search ... dates.json for updates to plugins.
27 Mar 2018 09:10:48,346 [22] INFO UpdateManager - Plugin update file not found. No updates available for x1 build: 6001si

Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:29 am
by rosspayne
Where can I find the Release Notes for 8.6? Thanks.

Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:20 pm
by tjh
rosspayne wrote:Where can I find the Release Notes for 8.6? Thanks.

The first post of this thread.

Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:27 pm
by masta blasta
well the index corruption issue is still alive and well in my case, total number of items in index drops to around 64,000 items from around 550,000 items. this is unfortunate since that first line in the 8.6 release notes had me excited that the issue was finally fixed.

Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 9:40 am
by cscott
masta blasta wrote:well the index corruption issue is still alive and well in my case, total number of items in index drops to around 64,000 items from around 550,000 items. this is unfortunate since that first line in the 8.6 release notes had me excited that the issue was finally fixed.

Masta Blasta,

I'm willing to bet what you're seeing isn't index corruption, but a byproduct of our fix for one of the other annoying bugs:
8.6 Release Notes wrote:- System time changing due to travel no longer necessitates a rescan of indexes

The delta scans on files are triggered based on a check of the "Modified Time" metadata value which was - previous to 8.6 - calculated in the machine's local time.

If that time zone was to change (for example: if you happened to travel between time zones), the modified time value would be inaccurate and X1 Search would re-index those items.

The solution for that bug was to change the calculation of the Modified Time to be in the UTC time format, which never changes.

The downside of that fix is that every item in your index must have that calculation performed on it. This requires removal and re-indexing into the index, as most metadata values are calculated upon ingestion into the index.

In order to avoid the issue of everyone who updated to 8.6 having their index be automatically deleted and rebuilt from the ground up, we elected to allow everyone to preserve their existing indexes - however, if you elected to keep those existing indexes the modified time re-indexing issue is still present.

Delete and rebuild your indexes, and I'll bet this problem is solved for you.

Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:30 am
by kblount
I've been out of the office for a couple of weeks, and have not had a chance to follow-up with this. What I am finding is that every day X1 does a delta scan of my email, and this takes 5-6 hours. While the delta scan is occurring, X1 is essentially unusable. Is there something I am doing wrong that is causing X1 to do the Delta scan each day after logging in, or is there something I can do to prevent this from happening?

After it finishes, things seem to work as they should, but I've only had 3-4 days with this version so far. I cannot say for certain that this always hold true.

Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:51 am
by SoCalScott
I have a similar issue. X1 does a full scan of EVERYTHING every time I either (a) reboot my computer, or (b) exit X1 and restart. Very annoying.

Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:57 pm
by masta blasta
cscott wrote:
masta blasta wrote:well the index corruption issue is still alive and well in my case, total number of items in index drops to around 64,000 items from around 550,000 items. this is unfortunate since that first line in the 8.6 release notes had me excited that the issue was finally fixed.

Masta Blasta,

I'm willing to bet what you're seeing isn't index corruption, but a byproduct of our fix for one of the other annoying bugs:
8.6 Release Notes wrote:- System time changing due to travel no longer necessitates a rescan of indexes

The delta scans on files are triggered based on a check of the "Modified Time" metadata value which was - previous to 8.6 - calculated in the machine's local time.

If that time zone was to change (for example: if you happened to travel between time zones), the modified time value would be inaccurate and X1 Search would re-index those items.

The solution for that bug was to change the calculation of the Modified Time to be in the UTC time format, which never changes.

The downside of that fix is that every item in your index must have that calculation performed on it. This requires removal and re-indexing into the index, as most metadata values are calculated upon ingestion into the index.

In order to avoid the issue of everyone who updated to 8.6 having their index be automatically deleted and rebuilt from the ground up, we elected to allow everyone to preserve their existing indexes - however, if you elected to keep those existing indexes the modified time re-indexing issue is still present.

Delete and rebuild your indexes, and I'll bet this problem is solved for you.


thank you cscott for the detailed explanation. unfortunately this is occurring on a new installation of X1 and on machines that do not change time zones.like other versions before, it is always the items from drive c: that get lost, the index retains items from other drives.

also seeing the same issue as SoCalScott, X1 is running a full reindex of the computer after every boot.

Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:13 pm
by SoCalScott
masta blasta wrote: also seeing the same issue as SoCalScott, X1 is running a full reindex of the computer after every boot.

Literally just happened again, less than an hour ago, when I had to exit X1 to do a Microsoft Office 365 update. Restarted X1, and it is now in the midst of a full re-index process.

Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:07 am
by Trajan
I am getting a very odd behavior now from X1. My results are all blank with a "Loading data" message (attachment). It is not as if the index is lost, because the email index clearly has 338,177 items (attachment). I also get an intermittent "connecting to search service" message. A restart of X1 did not help.

What should I do?
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EDIT: I can't get the images to show, and there is no way to simply upload them. Not going to spend 20 minutes figuring that out.

Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:25 am
by Trajan
X1 won't connect to the search service. And even though it is a desktop program with no need for the internet, because X1 has decided to police its program in that way, I now have a useless program. I really don't want to uninstall and spend 10 hours indexing if this is a problem with X1's servers. Anyone else experiencing this?

Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:34 am
by Jogy
Trajan wrote:X1 won't connect to the search service. And even though it is a desktop program with no need for the internet, because X1 has decided to police its program in that way, I now have a useless program. I really don't want to uninstall and spend 10 hours indexing if this is a problem with X1's servers. Anyone else experiencing this?


Hi,

this "search service" is a X1 service running on your local computer, not on internet. The error you are receiving means that the search service is crashing for some reason.
Can you check the X1 logs folder (by default located at C:\Users\{USERNAME}\AppData\Local\X1 Search\logs for any xml files whose names contain "crash"? Examining one of those files may hint at what is the problem with the search service.

Jogy

Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:08 pm
by Trajan
I do have such xml files. I opened up a support case and sent them. I can't see anything of note or real value in them (they are very short), but perhaps they will. I'd upload them here for you to look at, but there is no attachment feature.

Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:21 pm
by cscott
Trajan wrote:I do have such xml files. I opened up a support case and sent them. I can't see anything of note or real value in them (they are very short), but perhaps they will. I'd upload them here for you to look at, but there is no attachment feature.

Trajan:

Have you followed the steps in this forum topic?

viewtopic.php?f=67&t=19387

Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2018 6:02 am
by hoffi.confusion
hoffi.confusion wrote:Please let me know here, if the bugs are fixed, then I will also update.


Hello,

there is now a fixed version available? Is it save to upadte to 8.6 or is it better to stay at 8.5.2 already?

Re: X1 Search 8.6 Release - Build 6003ch

PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:52 pm
by swhx1
So I was on this 6003ch build and all of a sudden it updated to 8.6.1.8161 today and now my License ID will not work it was good until 6/18/24 according to the last beta. was this update a non beta. I cant tell