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Postby Milei » Tue May 07, 2013 11:50 am

Hi,

i saw that Outlook 2003 is not on the list of the supported email applications. I do not plan to change from outlook 2003 to a newer version, so will i be able to use X1 with Outlook 2003?

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Re: Outlook 2003

Postby Kenward » Tue May 07, 2013 12:18 pm

It may depend on the format of your PST files.

PST files are PST files. If X1 can handle one that works in 2007, then it should handle on in the same format from Outlook 2003.

Outlook 2003 began the switch to Unicode files. If you are on Unicode, you could just try X1 Search 8 to see if it indexes.

Actually, I am not sure that X1 Search 8 can't handle the older format. In which case you may still be in luck.
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Re: Outlook 2003

Postby csalsa » Wed May 08, 2013 3:34 pm

I believe that Outlook 2013 has a different format for .PST files. I had problems with X1 beta and the Outlook 2013 until the recent X1 V8 beta builds. Then it worked.

However, the release version of X1 V8 crashes Outlook 2013 altogether. Outlook 2013 becomes completely unresponsive though the window can be mimimised and restored but the busy "hour" glass remains.
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Re: Outlook 2003

Postby Kenward » Wed May 08, 2013 4:28 pm

The question was about Outlook 2003, not 2013.
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Re: Outlook 2003

Postby csalsa » Wed May 08, 2013 8:21 pm

Kenward wrote:The question was about Outlook 2003, not 2013.

Noted. I was a little off topic. The point was there are multiple .PST formats (three I think between Outlook 2003-2013) to watch out for.
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Re: Outlook 2003

Postby Kenward » Thu May 09, 2013 1:41 am

Indeed, PSTs are not just PSTs. I was not aware of any change between 2010 and 2013. One to look out for.
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Re: Outlook 2003

Postby csalsa » Thu May 09, 2013 3:01 pm

Something else to consider is Outlook (Office) 2003 is one year from end-of-life. After that, the software may work but issues will not be addressed by Microsoft and, more importantly, any vendors software, like X1, are not likely to test their application with it. Testing is expensive and is typically prioritized to the most common products first to be get best-bang-for-buck and out-of-life products last.

See:
Microsoft Support Lifecycle for Office 2003
Microsoft Support Lifecycle Policy FAQ

Microsoft supports products for about, and at least, ten years.
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Re: Outlook 2003

Postby Kenward » Fri May 10, 2013 1:35 am

csalsa wrote:Something else to consider is Outlook (Office) 2003 is one year from end-of-life.

The same also applies to Windows XP! And that should be even more of a concern. Believe it or not, people still use that decade old version of Windows.

On the issue of PST formats in Outlook 2013, I went to look for evidence and found nothing to suggest that there is a new PST format. There is however, a new OST format. So people on Exchange may need to pay attention.
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Re: Outlook 2003

Postby csalsa » Sat May 11, 2013 3:57 am

Hi Kenward

I had meant from the earlier version of Office for .PST format (Outlook 2002). Anyway, you are right that the .OST format changes at different times to the PST format. I looked in the Outlook 2013 data folder and it contained only .OST files and I know these were migrated when I updated from Outlook 2010.
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Re: Outlook 2003

Postby mrwul » Sat May 11, 2013 11:40 pm

@Milei
Up front, I am not an expert on this, but maybe there are some changes indeed, most importantly changing from ANSI to Unicode.

When searching for: outlook 2003 2013 upgrade changes ost pst
I found:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/830336/en-us
and
http://www.howto-outlook.com/howto/outl ... pgrade.htm

//
Microsoft Office Outlook 2007 and Microsoft Office Outlook 2003 have both a different format and a larger overall size limit for the personal folders (.pst) file than the .pst files that are in the earlier versions of Microsoft Outlook. In Outlook 2002 and earlier, the .pst files are in the American National Standards Institute (ANSI) format, and the overall size has a limit of 2 gigabytes (GB).

By default, .pst files are in the Unicode format in Outlook 2007 and in Outlook 2003. Additionally, the overall size of the .pst files has a limit that is more than the 2-GB limit that is imposed by the ANSI .pst files. By default, the limit for a Unicode .pst file in Outlook 2007 and in Outlook 2003 is configured to be 20 GB. For more information, click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
832925 How to configure the size limit for both (.pst) and (.ost) files in Outlook 2003

As in earlier versions of Outlook, Outlook 2003 Internet Message Access Protocol Version 4rev1 (IMAP4) accounts and HTTP accounts use .pst files that do not use the Unicode format. Therefore, the .pst files for IMAP or HTTP accounts in Outlook 2003 are limited to 2 GB. In Outlook 2007, the Internet Message Access Protocol Version 4rev1 (IMAP4) accounts and HTTP accounts do use Unicode format .pst files and are not limited to 2 GB.

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Maybe X1 does not support 2003 ANSI ?

Just a wild guess only.
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